Vote Ganging

[A Former User]

Recently, I enabled for posts 4 or more downvotes to be auto-flagged. It helps me know what people dont like. I’ve been looking at some recent ones and ones from the past, and I keep seeing these really random heavily downvoted posts, and upon reading the actual content, it isn’t even all that bad. I know people got their own opinions on what is wrong to post, but I just want to remind people to be more serious about what you think is:
1) offensive
2) toxic
3) is breaking the rules
4) low quality/spam

Please avoid vote ganging.
Do not upvote/downvote someone just because others are. I have seen this numerous times, and people have even admitted it. Some people just follow what their best friend/girlfriend is doing and if you’re downvoting that person, that just isnt fair to the person because it wasnt your original idea to downvote.

It is okay to ask why you’re downvoted.
I understand they have a concern about it, or just want to ask why someone did. If you’re calm about it, I dont see the problem. It is not against rules. Just state your reason(s) and if they understand, move on. Try not to get salty with that person, because if you show attitude, it’s more likely that person will start getting mad at you for what you did instead of originally being calm.

“It’s just my opinion”
Im tired of people using that quote as an excuse why they downvoted someone. Yes, it is an opinion. But you cant expect everyone to be chill if they dont understand why you did it. So of course they’ll ask. And dont get on your soapbox and think that just becuase someone is asking why, that they are being childish. Usually people just ask because they simply dont understand. If you cant explain why you downvoted someone without getting mad/assuming they’re mad, then we have a bigger problem.

[Rēsh-1]

@Duchess Related to this, this is what @\Cawwie said in my DMs.

you’re a cool person, but i will start downvoting posts that pretty much are the same thing

Is this considered breaking your statement? (I may show proof as well if needed)

[Bandit]

Hello, Duchess.

Upon reading this post, I understand your point of view, and can understand how ‘vote ganging’ is an issue. However, concerning your most recently-downvoted post, a few people and I have our own reasons why.

Duchess, what you said to me in privately about the TTP issue concerning my own ‘copy group’ was the reason I downvoted. I recently removed it because I found out you were upset about TTP recently making his own version of your group- copying essentially. Others also happened to downvote, but it was for different reasons, I hope you understand this.
At that time, when you had suggested me getting banned, I was shocked. Utterly, really. Might have been simply because of the idea itself and how I believed that we were friends- that I told you my story and that things would be alright for me. Things have only gotten worse from there, but not with me.

Unfortunately, I have heard what you’ve now done to a certain trial moderator. Speaking as a user who has heard of that, I believe that that is simply unacceptable. I do not believe that that trial moderator was rightfully demoted, and from what I also heard, it was due to them downvoting some of your posts. That is an awful thing to do only for that reason, and I will not stand idly by in silence.

I will further edit this to make it sound more comprehensive, but this is the general gist of what I had to say, in case questions arose when I downvoted this post, to the owner of the post AND people reading this.

[A Former User]

𝓑𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓲𝓽

Upon reading this post, I understand your point of view, and can understand how ‘vote ganging’ is an issue. However, concerning your most recently-downvoted post, a few people and I have our own reasons why.

What you dont know is that I had already thought vote ganging was wrong back when A38 did it with Izzy. And way before that because I literally seen people gang up on other users too. This isnt just about me. It is just the first I experienced that behavior myself, and I genuinely should have said something about it sooner.
Even though I did not understand the downvoting, I did not make this post just because of a38 downvoting a comment. I didnt even ask a38 why he did it. It was very obvious that multiple people downvoted my comment just because of the others. You. Him. And his girlfriend. I would have said something about it if it were literally any other group of friends. We have had in multiple situations I saw, and as I said, people admitting to it too.

Unfortunately, I have heard what you’ve now done to a certain trial moderator. Speaking as a user who has heard of that, I believe that that is simply unacceptable. I do not believe that that trial moderator was rightfully demoted, and from what I also heard, it was due to them downvoting some of your posts. That is an awful thing to do only for that reason, and I will not stand idly by in silence.

I didnt de-trialmod him because he downvoted my comment. I was leaving the downvot thing be and only was going to make this one post about it to cover it in general. I only considered de-trailmodding him when he literally blocked me on discord after just yesterday, he had told me he was glad i messaged him to clear something up that got him mad. He jumped way into things and got way too petty over misunderstandings. THAT is why I de-modded him. His attitude with me when I asked him if he was mad at me and Tree for defending TTP wasnt a good start to our conversation yesterday either.

[Wubbrle the Wubble]

i think drama is happening rn, ima stay out of this, sorry.

[Bandit]

@Duchess said in Vote Ganging:

It was very obvious that multiple people downvoted my comment just because of the others. You. Him. And his girlfriend.

I disagree, for me personally. I have listed the reason why I downvoted, and I even removed it later on once I found out that you were upset over TTP’s newest group. I have never quite liked how it seems that we all tend to be one cult, essentially, so I understand how it might look.

@Duchess said in Vote Ganging:

he had told me he was glad i messaged him to clear something up that got him mad.

I have seen what he said (If I know what you’re talking about, correct me if I’m wrong), and I can also understand how it could be perceived how he was mad, but it appears that he was just asking with an extra statement. He was not mad at TTP, and after December 29th he has considered to not be in any fights with him.

@Duchess said in Vote Ganging:

He jumped way into things and got way too petty over misunderstandings.

I’d arguably say that some users here have been way more petty than him, but that might be partially subjective due to my relationship with him. He has all the reasons to be petty, considerably with a few users, but he has stated to be calm and has gone through so much time after time in terms of harassment and mistreatment, including his time as a trial moderator. And he jumped way into things? He’s a trial moderator, he should be jumping in to prevent drama.

I will stand by him and believe his word, as I have heard specific things from you. Unless you have some pretty good evidence of his misbehavior, I will continue to believe him, because I sure have evidence of you from others.

[A Former User]

Just as an overal statement to the community, I know people are upset about me de-trial modding A38, but it is deTRIAL modding. The role is as a trial. If he were an official mod, it would have done things differently. I take people’s role as mod more personally. I like to know and trust people as a person before considering them as a mod. I dont think that is too much to want because if I cant trust someone wont blow up, how can i make them a mod?

𝓑𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓲𝓽 said in Vote Ganging:

I disagree, for me personally. I have listed the reason why I downvoted, and I even removed it later on once I found out that you were upset over TTP’s newest group. I have never quite liked how it seems that we all tend to be one cult, essentially, so I understand how it might look.

Yeah, and your reason proves you were being petty. You said you downvoted it over something totally unrelated to my comment.

𝓑𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓲𝓽 said in Vote Ganging:

I have seen what he said (If I know what you’re talking about, correct me if I’m wrong), and I can also understand how it could be perceived how he was mad, but it appears that he was just asking with an extra statement. He was not mad at TTP, and after December 29th he has considered to not be in any fights with him.

Except a38 was mad at Tree for a misunderstanding. And he said he was glad I cleared it up. And then im blocked out of nowhere…? Doesnt add make sense.

𝓑𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓲𝓽 said in Vote Ganging:

I’d arguably say that some users here have been way more petty than him,

You can’t really compare “other users have been worse” when they arent trial mods. And it’s not like I banned him over this. That would be wrong.

Since you’re looking for evidence of him, let’s bring this to dms.

[Youre_Just_A_Pun_To_Put_It_Politely.]

am i interrupting something

[A Former User]

@laraiia Some people downvote stuff if it’s low quality (aka, repeating posts). Which i might not want to do that myself, but it’s not wrong to do so. I think it’s at least nice she warned you instead of just starting to downvote stuff.

[A Former User]

Which i should add that to the list lol

[Rēsh-1]

@Duchess Ah, thanks for the information

[Rēsh-1]

Wubbrle the amazing Wubble Euh me too

[Wubbrle the Wubble]

@laraiia Oki :)

[A Former User]

@Duchess Preech!

[A Former User]

Vote ganging.

[A Former User]

𝓑𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓲𝓽 and i downvoted because it seemed like duchess was trying to make ttp feel bad about creating his own group

[A Former User]

@Duchess said in Vote Ganging:

I only considered de-trailmodding him when he literally blocked me on discord after just yesterday, he had told me he was glad i messaged him to clear something up that got him mad. He jumped way into things and got way too petty over misunderstandings. THAT is why I de-modded him. His attitude with me when I asked him if he was mad at me and Tree for defending TTP wasnt a good start to our conversation yesterday either.

and yet that post, for one part, can be considered petty. you weren’t defending ttp, you were tryna make him feel shameful for creating a group like yours